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August 9, 2005

openSUSE

The openSUSE site was visible for me this morning. SUSEroot started getting visitors from it last night (SUSEroot and the Wiki are linked from the "Communicate" page, along with several other community-based sites), so I guess DNS caught up to me today. It's not immediately apparent, so I wanted to point out that "Recent Changes" can be found here.

Right now it is similar to a Wiki with links to download 9.3 or 10.0 Beta 1 (codenamed Prague) on the front page. Another prominent link on the front page is to the bug reporting procedure page; it lists detailed instructions and tips for reporting bugs. There is a lot of information over there and I am still going through it all. I said "similar to a Wiki" because with the exception of a couple of pages or discussion pages, most of the site can not be edited by visitors. I have no idea if this will change in the future.

I got an email yesterday, along with some other community members, from a SUSE representative about the new openSUSE and site. It also had some links to 10.0 torrents and the "Communicate" page attached. The email asserted that they did not want to replace the work we had done with our sites, but develop a new resource.

I don't know what this means for susewiki.org. In openSUSE.org's current state, It doesn't look like it is going to meet the same need as our Wiki, but this may change as the openSUSE site evolves. So there are no plans to do anything differently at the SUSE Wiki, we'll just continue to go on as normal. I want to point out that the content on the SUSE Wiki is released under the GNU FDL so it can be used anywhere (the openSUSE.org site, for example) in accordance with that license (more on that in a minute).

SUSEroot is my private toy, so I don't see anything changing over here except that I'll be adding some info about openSUSE in the near future.

Now, I was looking at the terms of use at the openSUSE.org site because I wanted to see if the content from the SUSE Wiki would be able to transfer over. In the footer of each page there is a link to their "Legal" page; in the Copyright Notice they state the site is released under the GNU FDL 1.2 or later, the same as the SUSE Wiki. It also includes some stipulations I hadn't seen before:

"no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts"

I don't know what that means, but I'm sure someone smarter than I can explain it.

On the same "Legal" page, there is a link to a "Terms of Site" page. It is "Legalese" and most of it might as well be in Sanskrit for all the sense it makes to me, but there were a couple of sections that struck me:

"Any material, information or other communication You transmit or post to this web site (including, but not limited to, ideas, suggestions, feedback, bug identification, content, code, copyrighted materials or materials protected by other intellectual property laws) will be considered non-confidential and non-proprietary com-munications. Novell will have no obligations with respect to the communications. Novell and its designees will be free to copy, disclose, distribute, incorporate and otherwise use the communications and all data, images, sounds, text and other things embodied therein for any and all commercial or non-commercial purposes."

and

"Novell strictly prohibits the redistribution or copying of any part of this web site or content on this web site without written permission from Novell. Novell authorizes You to display on Your computer, download and print pages from this web site provided the copyright notice appears on all such printouts and the information will not be altered and the content is only used for personal, educational and non-commercial use and will not redistribute or copy to any other media. Permission to use Documents (such as white pa-pers, press releases, datasheets and FAQs) from this web site must be obtained first by sending a request to permission@novell.com."

Now, I'm no expert, but these two examples don't sound quite compliant with the GNU FDL. It is possible I misunderstood and I'm also willing to accept that it is a new site and concept, and will take time to hammer out such details.

So anyway, I'm optimistic about openSUSE and its associated site. I'm looking forward to the new level of participation offered to the community.

I saw on Planet SuSE that Marc pointed out that Google News released RSS feeds as Yahoo had done a while ago. So I added a page for SUSE Google News. While I was at it, I added a page for Recent Changes at openSUSE.

Posted 15 years, 2 months ago on August 9, 2005
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Re: openSUSE
Hello, you may want to read the first section of this http://www.gnu.org/licenses/fdl-howto-opt.html it does state how to use GFDL without to use the optional features of it. The "no invariant sections..." sentence does refer to this. Posted 15 years, 1 month ago by Adrian Schr鰐er • • • Reply
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